Cannibals All! Or, Slaves without Masters:
Cannibals All! got more attention in William Lloyd Garrison's Liberator than any other book in the history of that abolitionist journal. And Lincoln is said to have been more angered by George Fitzhugh than by any other pro-slavery writer, yet he unconsciously paraphrased Cannibals All! in his...
Gespeichert in:
| 1. Verfasser: | |
|---|---|
| Format: | Elektronisch E-Book |
| Sprache: | English |
| Veröffentlicht: |
Cambridge, MA
Harvard University Press
[2009]
|
| Schriftenreihe: | The John Harvard Library
|
| Schlagworte: | |
| Online-Zugang: | FAW01 FAB01 FCO01 FHA01 FKE01 FLA01 UPA01 UBG01 Volltext |
| Zusammenfassung: | Cannibals All! got more attention in William Lloyd Garrison's Liberator than any other book in the history of that abolitionist journal. And Lincoln is said to have been more angered by George Fitzhugh than by any other pro-slavery writer, yet he unconsciously paraphrased Cannibals All! in his House Divided speech. Fitzhugh was provocative because of his stinging attack on free society, laissez-faire economy, and wage slavery, along with their philosophical underpinnings. He used socialist doctrine to defend slavery and drew upon the same evidence Marx used in his indictment of capitalism. Socialism, he held, was only "the new fashionable name for slavery," though slavery was far more humane and responsible, "the best and most common form of socialism." His most effective testimony was furnished by the abolitionists themselves. He combed the diatribes of their friends, the reformers, transcendentalists, and utopians, against the social evils of the North. "Why all this," he asked, "except that free society is a failure?" The trouble all started, according to Fitzhugh, with John Locke, "a presumptuous charlatan," and with the heresies of the Enlightenment. In the great Lockean consensus that makes up American thought from Benjamin Franklin to Franklin Roosevelt, Fitzhugh therefore stands out as a lone dissenter who makes the conventional polarities between Jefferson and Hamilton, or Hoover and Roosevelt, seem insignificant. Beside him Taylor, Randolph, and Calhoun blend inconspicuously into the American consensus, all being apostles of John Locke in some degree. An intellectual tradition that suffers from uniformity-even if it is virtuous, liberal conformity-could stand a bit of contrast, and George Fitzhugh can supply more of it than any other American thinker |
| Beschreibung: | Description based on online resource; title from PDF title page (publisher's Web site, viewed 06. Mrz 2024) |
| Beschreibung: | 1 Online-Ressource (304 Seiten) |
| ISBN: | 9780674036925 |
| DOI: | 10.4159/9780674036925 |
Internformat
MARC
| LEADER | 00000nmm a2200000zc 4500 | ||
|---|---|---|---|
| 001 | BV049627883 | ||
| 003 | DE-604 | ||
| 005 | 00000000000000.0 | ||
| 007 | cr|uuu---uuuuu | ||
| 008 | 240326s2009 |||| o||u| ||||||eng d | ||
| 020 | |a 9780674036925 |9 978-0-674-03692-5 | ||
| 024 | 7 | |a 10.4159/9780674036925 |2 doi | |
| 035 | |a (ZDB-23-DGG)9780674036925 | ||
| 035 | |a (DE-599)BVBBV049627883 | ||
| 040 | |a DE-604 |b ger |e rda | ||
| 041 | 0 | |a eng | |
| 049 | |a DE-1043 |a DE-1046 |a DE-858 |a DE-Aug4 |a DE-859 |a DE-860 |a DE-473 |a DE-739 | ||
| 082 | 0 | |a 326.973 | |
| 100 | 1 | |a Fitzhugh, George |e Verfasser |4 aut | |
| 245 | 1 | 0 | |a Cannibals All! Or, Slaves without Masters |c George Fitzhugh; ed. by C. Vann Woodward |
| 264 | 1 | |a Cambridge, MA |b Harvard University Press |c [2009] | |
| 264 | 4 | |c © 1960 | |
| 300 | |a 1 Online-Ressource (304 Seiten) | ||
| 336 | |b txt |2 rdacontent | ||
| 337 | |b c |2 rdamedia | ||
| 338 | |b cr |2 rdacarrier | ||
| 490 | 0 | |a The John Harvard Library | |
| 500 | |a Description based on online resource; title from PDF title page (publisher's Web site, viewed 06. Mrz 2024) | ||
| 520 | |a Cannibals All! got more attention in William Lloyd Garrison's Liberator than any other book in the history of that abolitionist journal. And Lincoln is said to have been more angered by George Fitzhugh than by any other pro-slavery writer, yet he unconsciously paraphrased Cannibals All! in his House Divided speech. Fitzhugh was provocative because of his stinging attack on free society, laissez-faire economy, and wage slavery, along with their philosophical underpinnings. He used socialist doctrine to defend slavery and drew upon the same evidence Marx used in his indictment of capitalism. Socialism, he held, was only "the new fashionable name for slavery," though slavery was far more humane and responsible, "the best and most common form of socialism." His most effective testimony was furnished by the abolitionists themselves. He combed the diatribes of their friends, the reformers, transcendentalists, and utopians, against the social evils of the North. "Why all this," he asked, "except that free society is a failure?" The trouble all started, according to Fitzhugh, with John Locke, "a presumptuous charlatan," and with the heresies of the Enlightenment. In the great Lockean consensus that makes up American thought from Benjamin Franklin to Franklin Roosevelt, Fitzhugh therefore stands out as a lone dissenter who makes the conventional polarities between Jefferson and Hamilton, or Hoover and Roosevelt, seem insignificant. Beside him Taylor, Randolph, and Calhoun blend inconspicuously into the American consensus, all being apostles of John Locke in some degree. An intellectual tradition that suffers from uniformity-even if it is virtuous, liberal conformity-could stand a bit of contrast, and George Fitzhugh can supply more of it than any other American thinker | ||
| 546 | |a In English | ||
| 650 | 7 | |a HISTORY / United States / General |2 bisacsh | |
| 650 | 4 | |a Electronic books. -- local | |
| 650 | 4 | |a Slavery -- Justification | |
| 650 | 4 | |a Slavery -- United States -- Controversial literature | |
| 650 | 4 | |a Slavery |x Justification | |
| 650 | 4 | |a Slavery |z United States |v Controversial literature | |
| 650 | 4 | |a Working class | |
| 700 | 1 | |a Vann Woodward, C. |e Sonstige |4 oth | |
| 700 | 1 | |a Woodward, C. Vann |e Sonstige |4 oth | |
| 776 | 0 | 8 | |i Erscheint auch als |n Druck-Ausgabe |z 9780674094505 |
| 856 | 4 | 0 | |u https://doi.org/10.4159/9780674036925?locatt=mode:legacy |x Verlag |z URL des Erstveröffentlichers |3 Volltext |
| 912 | |a ZDB-23-DGG | ||
| 999 | |a oai:aleph.bib-bvb.de:BVB01-034971768 | ||
| 966 | e | |u https://doi.org/10.4159/9780674036925?locatt=mode:legacy |l FAW01 |p ZDB-23-DGG |q FAW_PDA_DGG |x Verlag |3 Volltext | |
| 966 | e | |u https://doi.org/10.4159/9780674036925?locatt=mode:legacy |l FAB01 |p ZDB-23-DGG |q FAB_PDA_DGG |x Verlag |3 Volltext | |
| 966 | e | |u https://doi.org/10.4159/9780674036925?locatt=mode:legacy |l FCO01 |p ZDB-23-DGG |q FCO_PDA_DGG |x Verlag |3 Volltext | |
| 966 | e | |u https://doi.org/10.4159/9780674036925?locatt=mode:legacy |l FHA01 |p ZDB-23-DGG |q FHA_PDA_DGG |x Verlag |3 Volltext | |
| 966 | e | |u https://doi.org/10.4159/9780674036925?locatt=mode:legacy |l FKE01 |p ZDB-23-DGG |q FKE_PDA_DGG |x Verlag |3 Volltext | |
| 966 | e | |u https://doi.org/10.4159/9780674036925?locatt=mode:legacy |l FLA01 |p ZDB-23-DGG |q FLA_PDA_DGG |x Verlag |3 Volltext | |
| 966 | e | |u https://doi.org/10.4159/9780674036925?locatt=mode:legacy |l UPA01 |p ZDB-23-DGG |q UPA_PDA_DGG |x Verlag |3 Volltext | |
| 966 | e | |u https://doi.org/10.4159/9780674036925?locatt=mode:legacy |l UBG01 |p ZDB-23-DGG |q UBG_PDA_DGG |x Verlag |3 Volltext | |
Datensatz im Suchindex
| _version_ | 1804186527256805376 |
|---|---|
| adam_txt | |
| any_adam_object | |
| any_adam_object_boolean | |
| author | Fitzhugh, George |
| author_facet | Fitzhugh, George |
| author_role | aut |
| author_sort | Fitzhugh, George |
| author_variant | g f gf |
| building | Verbundindex |
| bvnumber | BV049627883 |
| collection | ZDB-23-DGG |
| ctrlnum | (ZDB-23-DGG)9780674036925 (DE-599)BVBBV049627883 |
| dewey-full | 326.973 |
| dewey-hundreds | 300 - Social sciences |
| dewey-ones | 326 - Slavery and emancipation |
| dewey-raw | 326.973 |
| dewey-search | 326.973 |
| dewey-sort | 3326.973 |
| dewey-tens | 320 - Political science (Politics and government) |
| discipline | Politologie |
| discipline_str_mv | Politologie |
| doi_str_mv | 10.4159/9780674036925 |
| format | Electronic eBook |
| fullrecord | <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><collection xmlns="http://www.loc.gov/MARC21/slim"><record><leader>04580nmm a2200577zc 4500</leader><controlfield tag="001">BV049627883</controlfield><controlfield tag="003">DE-604</controlfield><controlfield tag="005">00000000000000.0</controlfield><controlfield tag="007">cr|uuu---uuuuu</controlfield><controlfield tag="008">240326s2009 |||| o||u| ||||||eng d</controlfield><datafield tag="020" ind1=" " ind2=" "><subfield code="a">9780674036925</subfield><subfield code="9">978-0-674-03692-5</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="024" ind1="7" ind2=" "><subfield code="a">10.4159/9780674036925</subfield><subfield code="2">doi</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="035" ind1=" " ind2=" "><subfield code="a">(ZDB-23-DGG)9780674036925</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="035" ind1=" " ind2=" "><subfield code="a">(DE-599)BVBBV049627883</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="040" ind1=" " ind2=" "><subfield code="a">DE-604</subfield><subfield code="b">ger</subfield><subfield code="e">rda</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="041" ind1="0" ind2=" "><subfield code="a">eng</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="049" ind1=" " ind2=" "><subfield code="a">DE-1043</subfield><subfield code="a">DE-1046</subfield><subfield code="a">DE-858</subfield><subfield code="a">DE-Aug4</subfield><subfield code="a">DE-859</subfield><subfield code="a">DE-860</subfield><subfield code="a">DE-473</subfield><subfield code="a">DE-739</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="082" ind1="0" ind2=" "><subfield code="a">326.973</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="100" ind1="1" ind2=" "><subfield code="a">Fitzhugh, George</subfield><subfield code="e">Verfasser</subfield><subfield code="4">aut</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="245" ind1="1" ind2="0"><subfield code="a">Cannibals All! Or, Slaves without Masters</subfield><subfield code="c">George Fitzhugh; ed. by C. Vann Woodward</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="264" ind1=" " ind2="1"><subfield code="a">Cambridge, MA</subfield><subfield code="b">Harvard University Press</subfield><subfield code="c">[2009]</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="264" ind1=" " ind2="4"><subfield code="c">© 1960</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="300" ind1=" " ind2=" "><subfield code="a">1 Online-Ressource (304 Seiten)</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="336" ind1=" " ind2=" "><subfield code="b">txt</subfield><subfield code="2">rdacontent</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="337" ind1=" " ind2=" "><subfield code="b">c</subfield><subfield code="2">rdamedia</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="338" ind1=" " ind2=" "><subfield code="b">cr</subfield><subfield code="2">rdacarrier</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="490" ind1="0" ind2=" "><subfield code="a">The John Harvard Library</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="500" ind1=" " ind2=" "><subfield code="a">Description based on online resource; title from PDF title page (publisher's Web site, viewed 06. Mrz 2024)</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="520" ind1=" " ind2=" "><subfield code="a">Cannibals All! got more attention in William Lloyd Garrison's Liberator than any other book in the history of that abolitionist journal. And Lincoln is said to have been more angered by George Fitzhugh than by any other pro-slavery writer, yet he unconsciously paraphrased Cannibals All! in his House Divided speech. Fitzhugh was provocative because of his stinging attack on free society, laissez-faire economy, and wage slavery, along with their philosophical underpinnings. He used socialist doctrine to defend slavery and drew upon the same evidence Marx used in his indictment of capitalism. Socialism, he held, was only "the new fashionable name for slavery," though slavery was far more humane and responsible, "the best and most common form of socialism." His most effective testimony was furnished by the abolitionists themselves. He combed the diatribes of their friends, the reformers, transcendentalists, and utopians, against the social evils of the North. "Why all this," he asked, "except that free society is a failure?" The trouble all started, according to Fitzhugh, with John Locke, "a presumptuous charlatan," and with the heresies of the Enlightenment. In the great Lockean consensus that makes up American thought from Benjamin Franklin to Franklin Roosevelt, Fitzhugh therefore stands out as a lone dissenter who makes the conventional polarities between Jefferson and Hamilton, or Hoover and Roosevelt, seem insignificant. Beside him Taylor, Randolph, and Calhoun blend inconspicuously into the American consensus, all being apostles of John Locke in some degree. An intellectual tradition that suffers from uniformity-even if it is virtuous, liberal conformity-could stand a bit of contrast, and George Fitzhugh can supply more of it than any other American thinker</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="546" ind1=" " ind2=" "><subfield code="a">In English</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="650" ind1=" " ind2="7"><subfield code="a">HISTORY / United States / General</subfield><subfield code="2">bisacsh</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="650" ind1=" " ind2="4"><subfield code="a">Electronic books. -- local</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="650" ind1=" " ind2="4"><subfield code="a">Slavery -- Justification</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="650" ind1=" " ind2="4"><subfield code="a">Slavery -- United States -- Controversial literature</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="650" ind1=" " ind2="4"><subfield code="a">Slavery</subfield><subfield code="x">Justification</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="650" ind1=" " ind2="4"><subfield code="a">Slavery</subfield><subfield code="z">United States</subfield><subfield code="v">Controversial literature</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="650" ind1=" " ind2="4"><subfield code="a">Working class</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="700" ind1="1" ind2=" "><subfield code="a">Vann Woodward, C.</subfield><subfield code="e">Sonstige</subfield><subfield code="4">oth</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="700" ind1="1" ind2=" "><subfield code="a">Woodward, C. Vann</subfield><subfield code="e">Sonstige</subfield><subfield code="4">oth</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="776" ind1="0" ind2="8"><subfield code="i">Erscheint auch als</subfield><subfield code="n">Druck-Ausgabe</subfield><subfield code="z">9780674094505</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="856" ind1="4" ind2="0"><subfield code="u">https://doi.org/10.4159/9780674036925?locatt=mode:legacy</subfield><subfield code="x">Verlag</subfield><subfield code="z">URL des Erstveröffentlichers</subfield><subfield code="3">Volltext</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="912" ind1=" " ind2=" "><subfield code="a">ZDB-23-DGG</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="999" ind1=" " ind2=" "><subfield code="a">oai:aleph.bib-bvb.de:BVB01-034971768</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="966" ind1="e" ind2=" "><subfield code="u">https://doi.org/10.4159/9780674036925?locatt=mode:legacy</subfield><subfield code="l">FAW01</subfield><subfield code="p">ZDB-23-DGG</subfield><subfield code="q">FAW_PDA_DGG</subfield><subfield code="x">Verlag</subfield><subfield code="3">Volltext</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="966" ind1="e" ind2=" "><subfield code="u">https://doi.org/10.4159/9780674036925?locatt=mode:legacy</subfield><subfield code="l">FAB01</subfield><subfield code="p">ZDB-23-DGG</subfield><subfield code="q">FAB_PDA_DGG</subfield><subfield code="x">Verlag</subfield><subfield code="3">Volltext</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="966" ind1="e" ind2=" "><subfield code="u">https://doi.org/10.4159/9780674036925?locatt=mode:legacy</subfield><subfield code="l">FCO01</subfield><subfield code="p">ZDB-23-DGG</subfield><subfield code="q">FCO_PDA_DGG</subfield><subfield code="x">Verlag</subfield><subfield code="3">Volltext</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="966" ind1="e" ind2=" "><subfield code="u">https://doi.org/10.4159/9780674036925?locatt=mode:legacy</subfield><subfield code="l">FHA01</subfield><subfield code="p">ZDB-23-DGG</subfield><subfield code="q">FHA_PDA_DGG</subfield><subfield code="x">Verlag</subfield><subfield code="3">Volltext</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="966" ind1="e" ind2=" "><subfield code="u">https://doi.org/10.4159/9780674036925?locatt=mode:legacy</subfield><subfield code="l">FKE01</subfield><subfield code="p">ZDB-23-DGG</subfield><subfield code="q">FKE_PDA_DGG</subfield><subfield code="x">Verlag</subfield><subfield code="3">Volltext</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="966" ind1="e" ind2=" "><subfield code="u">https://doi.org/10.4159/9780674036925?locatt=mode:legacy</subfield><subfield code="l">FLA01</subfield><subfield code="p">ZDB-23-DGG</subfield><subfield code="q">FLA_PDA_DGG</subfield><subfield code="x">Verlag</subfield><subfield code="3">Volltext</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="966" ind1="e" ind2=" "><subfield code="u">https://doi.org/10.4159/9780674036925?locatt=mode:legacy</subfield><subfield code="l">UPA01</subfield><subfield code="p">ZDB-23-DGG</subfield><subfield code="q">UPA_PDA_DGG</subfield><subfield code="x">Verlag</subfield><subfield code="3">Volltext</subfield></datafield><datafield tag="966" ind1="e" ind2=" "><subfield code="u">https://doi.org/10.4159/9780674036925?locatt=mode:legacy</subfield><subfield code="l">UBG01</subfield><subfield code="p">ZDB-23-DGG</subfield><subfield code="q">UBG_PDA_DGG</subfield><subfield code="x">Verlag</subfield><subfield code="3">Volltext</subfield></datafield></record></collection> |
| id | DE-604.BV049627883 |
| illustrated | Not Illustrated |
| index_date | 2024-07-03T23:38:00Z |
| indexdate | 2024-07-10T10:12:32Z |
| institution | BVB |
| isbn | 9780674036925 |
| language | English |
| oai_aleph_id | oai:aleph.bib-bvb.de:BVB01-034971768 |
| open_access_boolean | |
| owner | DE-1043 DE-1046 DE-858 DE-Aug4 DE-859 DE-860 DE-473 DE-BY-UBG DE-739 |
| owner_facet | DE-1043 DE-1046 DE-858 DE-Aug4 DE-859 DE-860 DE-473 DE-BY-UBG DE-739 |
| physical | 1 Online-Ressource (304 Seiten) |
| psigel | ZDB-23-DGG ZDB-23-DGG FAW_PDA_DGG ZDB-23-DGG FAB_PDA_DGG ZDB-23-DGG FCO_PDA_DGG ZDB-23-DGG FHA_PDA_DGG ZDB-23-DGG FKE_PDA_DGG ZDB-23-DGG FLA_PDA_DGG ZDB-23-DGG UPA_PDA_DGG ZDB-23-DGG UBG_PDA_DGG |
| publishDate | 2009 |
| publishDateSearch | 2009 |
| publishDateSort | 2009 |
| publisher | Harvard University Press |
| record_format | marc |
| series2 | The John Harvard Library |
| spelling | Fitzhugh, George Verfasser aut Cannibals All! Or, Slaves without Masters George Fitzhugh; ed. by C. Vann Woodward Cambridge, MA Harvard University Press [2009] © 1960 1 Online-Ressource (304 Seiten) txt rdacontent c rdamedia cr rdacarrier The John Harvard Library Description based on online resource; title from PDF title page (publisher's Web site, viewed 06. Mrz 2024) Cannibals All! got more attention in William Lloyd Garrison's Liberator than any other book in the history of that abolitionist journal. And Lincoln is said to have been more angered by George Fitzhugh than by any other pro-slavery writer, yet he unconsciously paraphrased Cannibals All! in his House Divided speech. Fitzhugh was provocative because of his stinging attack on free society, laissez-faire economy, and wage slavery, along with their philosophical underpinnings. He used socialist doctrine to defend slavery and drew upon the same evidence Marx used in his indictment of capitalism. Socialism, he held, was only "the new fashionable name for slavery," though slavery was far more humane and responsible, "the best and most common form of socialism." His most effective testimony was furnished by the abolitionists themselves. He combed the diatribes of their friends, the reformers, transcendentalists, and utopians, against the social evils of the North. "Why all this," he asked, "except that free society is a failure?" The trouble all started, according to Fitzhugh, with John Locke, "a presumptuous charlatan," and with the heresies of the Enlightenment. In the great Lockean consensus that makes up American thought from Benjamin Franklin to Franklin Roosevelt, Fitzhugh therefore stands out as a lone dissenter who makes the conventional polarities between Jefferson and Hamilton, or Hoover and Roosevelt, seem insignificant. Beside him Taylor, Randolph, and Calhoun blend inconspicuously into the American consensus, all being apostles of John Locke in some degree. An intellectual tradition that suffers from uniformity-even if it is virtuous, liberal conformity-could stand a bit of contrast, and George Fitzhugh can supply more of it than any other American thinker In English HISTORY / United States / General bisacsh Electronic books. -- local Slavery -- Justification Slavery -- United States -- Controversial literature Slavery Justification Slavery United States Controversial literature Working class Vann Woodward, C. Sonstige oth Woodward, C. Vann Sonstige oth Erscheint auch als Druck-Ausgabe 9780674094505 https://doi.org/10.4159/9780674036925?locatt=mode:legacy Verlag URL des Erstveröffentlichers Volltext |
| spellingShingle | Fitzhugh, George Cannibals All! Or, Slaves without Masters HISTORY / United States / General bisacsh Electronic books. -- local Slavery -- Justification Slavery -- United States -- Controversial literature Slavery Justification Slavery United States Controversial literature Working class |
| title | Cannibals All! Or, Slaves without Masters |
| title_auth | Cannibals All! Or, Slaves without Masters |
| title_exact_search | Cannibals All! Or, Slaves without Masters |
| title_exact_search_txtP | Cannibals All! Or, Slaves without Masters |
| title_full | Cannibals All! Or, Slaves without Masters George Fitzhugh; ed. by C. Vann Woodward |
| title_fullStr | Cannibals All! Or, Slaves without Masters George Fitzhugh; ed. by C. Vann Woodward |
| title_full_unstemmed | Cannibals All! Or, Slaves without Masters George Fitzhugh; ed. by C. Vann Woodward |
| title_short | Cannibals All! Or, Slaves without Masters |
| title_sort | cannibals all or slaves without masters |
| topic | HISTORY / United States / General bisacsh Electronic books. -- local Slavery -- Justification Slavery -- United States -- Controversial literature Slavery Justification Slavery United States Controversial literature Working class |
| topic_facet | HISTORY / United States / General Electronic books. -- local Slavery -- Justification Slavery -- United States -- Controversial literature Slavery Justification Slavery United States Controversial literature Working class |
| url | https://doi.org/10.4159/9780674036925?locatt=mode:legacy |
| work_keys_str_mv | AT fitzhughgeorge cannibalsallorslaveswithoutmasters AT vannwoodwardc cannibalsallorslaveswithoutmasters AT woodwardcvann cannibalsallorslaveswithoutmasters |