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| adam_text | Contents
Preface
page
xi
PART
і:
AN ANALYSIS OF THE LYSIS
ι
203A1—
207Б7:
the cast assembles, and the main
conversation is set up
3
2
207B8-210D8 (Socrates and Lysis): do Lysis parents really
love him?
12
1 20788—
D4: a few preliminary questions
12
2 20705—20906 16
3
209C7-210D8
21
4
Retrospect and prospect
36
3
2IOEI—213C9: Socrates and Menexenus
-
how does one
get a friend?
39
(a) Translation
40
(b) Some preliminaries
45
(c) The argument (212A8-213C8)
51
(d) Socrates, Lysis, Menexenus: three different levels of understanding
61
4
213D1—216B9: Socrates and Lysis again, then Menexenus
—
poets and cosmologists on what is friend of what (like of
like; or opposite of opposite?)
64
1
A brief overview of the new discussion ( the poets and the
cosmologists )
65
2
213Ш-214А2
71
3
2I4A2-E2
74
4
214E2-215C2
84
5
Can we really take Socrates seriously when he concludes that the
good will not be friends to the good (215B7—
ci)?
92
6
2Г5С3—
2fÓB9
94
viii
Contents
5 21601-22106:
what it is that loves, what it really loves,
and why
99
1
21CC1-Z17A2
99
2
217A3-2.21D6 IO7
a 217A3-218C3: the cause of friendship , philia, as presence
of bad
(?)
i
в
218C4—219B4: what is philon is philon for the sake of the philon
because of the ecbthrontf)
121
с
219B5-220B5: the first, and true, thing that is friend (philon),
contrasted with so-called friends , which are for the sake of
this first friend
125
d 220B6-221C5:
presence of bad is not the cause of friendship
133
(c + d) 219B5—221C5 and the identity of the first friend
135
E
221C5-DĆ:
the true cause of philiai
153
6
22ID6-222B2: the main argument reaches its conclusion
157
(a) 221DĆ-E5:
is the object of philia what belongs (to
оікеіопУ. І57
(b) 22IE5-222B2:
. . .
and so the genuine lover must be loved by his
darling
(?) 160
7
222B3—E7: some further questions from Socrates about the
argument, leading to (apparent) impasse
173
8
223A1-B8: the dialogue ends
-
people will say that Socrates
and the boys think they are friends, but that they haven t
been able to discover what the friend is
185
9
203A1—207B7 revisited
189
PART II: THE THEORY OF THE LYSIS
10
A re-reading of the Lysis: some preliminaries
195
1
Some methodological prolegomena; and a major objection from
proponents of the Analytical-Elenctic approach
195
2
The principle of real reference
205
3
Principal conclusions about the Lysis to be argued for in the next
chapter; and a problem about self-interest
211
4
Socratic
intellectualism introduced
21e
11
A re-reading of the Lysis
231
t
Socrates talks to Hippothales, then Lysis and Menexenus, then
Lysis by himself (203A—210D)
231
2
The Menexenus discussion (211A-213D)
236
3
The poets and the cosmologists (213E-216B)
242
Contents ix
4
The great central passage of the Lysis (216c—22id)
243
5
Task (a): a preliminary identification of the first friend as
—
whatever else it may be
—
the ultimate term of a certain means—end
hierarchy
245
ó
The next two tasks:
(в)
why does Socrates say that the cause of the
neither good nor bad s loving the first friend is not the bad, but
desirň
And (c) what sort of desire is it that allows him to say that
what one loves one desires?
248
7
Task (d): the problem that Socrates now seems to be saying that we
do not love our children, our dogs, wine, or our friends; is he really
saying that?
251
8
On what is good in itself ox desired for its own sake
260
9
The relation betweenphilia ( friendship ),
eros
( passion , romantic
love ), and epithumia ( desire ) in the Lysis
269
10
The further identification of the first friend
273
и
If the first friend is knowledge or wisdom, does that rule out its
being happiness?
275
12
If the first friend is knowledge or wisdom, does that rule out any
connection with what the Socrates of the Republic would call the
Form of the Good ?
278
12
On seeking the good of others independently of one
s
own
good; and other unfinished business
280
1
The Vlastosian, Kantian requirement that love be for the good of
others independently of ones own good
280
2
Unfinished business
291
Epilogue
297
(a) The Lysis and the Symposium
300
(в)
The Lysis and the Phaedrus
307
(c) Aristotle and the Lysis
312
(d) Beyond Aristotle
322
Translation of the Lysis
326
Bibliography
352
Index of names
359
Index of subjects
361
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